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Season 2 Episode 18

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This week, we’re stepping away from the soundstage and going off the Bollywood beat. 🎬 We dive into the worlds of Mira Nair, Gurinder Chadha, and Deepa Mehta — three filmmakers who built their own cinematic language far from Mumbai’s spotlight. From Monsoon Wedding to Bend It Like Beckham to Fire, these women carried Indian stories across continents, proving that you don’t need Bollywood to tell stories that move the world.

Expect deep dives, film nostalgia, and a little chai-fueled chaos as we unpack what makes each of them iconic — their vision, their impact, and their legacy beyond borders.


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ESOC Poll: Kamaal Hai - King

Munni - Roi Na by MItraaz

Kavitha - Winning Speech by Karan Aujla


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SPEAKER_02

Money, nerd alert, nerd alert. Guess where the nerd is? I see the nerd. I see the nerd. I was shocked when I saw you. I was like, whoa, but you actually look really cute.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, thank you. As I push from up my nose. No, so I had to wear my glasses because my my contacts were killing me today. And I'm like, and this is such a late recording. Like, I gotta put my other eyes on. So yeah, it is a late recording.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I hope you had a good Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_03

It's been good, you know, like just kind of chilling, relaxing. I did have to do a little bit of work here and there. Um otherwise it's been fine. It's been nice. Did you do any Black Friday shopping?

SPEAKER_02

Oh my god, there's so many. I like to buy my skincare products at this time, so I buy a lot of my skincare products. Yeah. I I say I wait till because I have my skincare product from last uh Black Friday. So this Black Friday, I have all my skincare products done. And some of like m makeup and stuff like that. I know they go on sale throughout the year, but like I don't make it at that time, I don't need it, so it kind of like works out for me for like right now to buy all that stuff. Yeah, so I do that. That was my Black Friday shopping.

SPEAKER_03

Very good. Um, I don't have any really big things to buy. I need to buy Sahaj more clothes because he keeps growing.

SPEAKER_02

No, I mean he's a growing boy, so like he he needs to get new clothes. He's right.

SPEAKER_03

I probably should buy him new clothes. So, Money, can I tell you? I watched something and I enjoyed it, and it didn't have murder. Aren't you proud of me? Oh, I am shocked. You kind of shocked me right now. I know. I see the shock in your face. Um, what did you watch? So it's a Tamil movie. It's um it's on Netflix Netflix, and it's called Nitham Oruvanam. I don't know what that title means, but I can tell you what it's about. It's about um there's like one big story, like an umbrella story, and then there's three like mini stories in between. Um but the three mini stories and the umbrella stories have the same actor, but it's really, really well done. The way that they tie it all together. Uh acting was really good, songs really good, and it was a very cute love story, not murder. It was great. Okay. And then after that, uh huh, I started watching that Idli Kadai movie. Remember that movie? Yeah, we talked about it. Yeah, the Chaiwala. Yeah. I got bored, and so then I put something on with murder on it. Oh no, was it boring? It got it was a little boring to me. Like I watched maybe 40 minutes, and I don't know, like, I'm sure it's gonna get better, but I could I feel like I could have I could predict the outcome. And I can't usually do that, and if I can do that, then it's just you know, whatever. It just wasn't it was okay. I'm the acting when everything was fine. I just was got a little bit bored in it, so then I was like, you know what? I'm gonna watch something else, and then I watched a documentary about murder, which was so much better. What about you? Did you watch anything good?

SPEAKER_02

I watched a show, it's just like a random movie. I kept popping up on my Netflix. I w I put it on. It's called The Greater Galish, and it's just like random like background. It wasn't that long, it was pretty short. It was about a f like a family and like something they just have to navigate through each other relationship. But it was it was like an hour and a half long, so you kind of like flew by. And I was like, oh, we're at the end already. I was like, oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03

I feel like I've seen that one, I've seen that um title come up, but I never Yeah, it keeps popping up.

SPEAKER_02

So yeah. Well, it kept popping up. Like, let me just give it a try a chance. Like, let me just watch what it is. It's not, I don't know, it's not worth your time. If you need something to watch in the background while you're like cooking or cleaning, put it on. Otherwise, I wouldn't waste my time on it. You know. Okay. That was it. I think I didn't watch too many things. No, it was a lot of family time, so I didn't watch much.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, Mundy, what are some of the trendos and trend don'ts? Oh my god, please. Uh and Bollywood this week.

SPEAKER_02

Please, with your mom jokes. All right, all right, all right. You're welcome. Well, I think I think the biggest I didn't say thank you. What are you saying welcome?

SPEAKER_03

I thanked you. I thanked myself on behalf of you.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, got it. Well, one of the biggest things that's trending, and we talked about it last week. We talked about that big fat Indian wedding that's happening.

SPEAKER_03

Can I add another word to that? Big fat awkward Indian wedding. Cringy.

SPEAKER_02

So awkward, dude. It okay, so I don't know if you all have seen it yet, and you probably have because it's all over our feed, so it should be all over your feed, too.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Last week, uh, Kavita mentioned all the people that are gonna be there, um, and they were all there. Jayla was there, um, and they performed in the Sangeet and all of the stuff. Madri Madri's Remember we talked about Madhuri. We were like, she's doing shows here. How's she gonna get over there? She was on a private jet and flew down there. Yep, she did it. She was there doing her dola de dola, but like the performance that she just someone messaged us, like the performance that she just did at this Sangeet should have been what she was performing here in the US in her like little show that she was doing.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, yes, I agree. She didn't get paid enough money for her show though. She got probably paid buku bucks for this.

SPEAKER_02

You know how you talked about last time a couple of weeks ago, and I was like, why is she doing this? Like in the and you're like, Oh, she probably needs money. And I'm like, nah, she's married to Dr. Nene. Like, why would she need money, right? But she must need money because she came here to do this performance, then flew down to India to do this. Obviously, they're all getting paid paid lots of money to perform.

SPEAKER_03

I think I saw, I think a lot of them, like the Bollywood people at least, are getting between one and five crores just for the performance. I saw that. That's a lot of apparently that's a lot of money. I don't know what the translation is. But J-Lo is getting like five plus.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know what the number is, but it's yeah, because she's getting the US dollar type of money. Yeah, she's getting that type of thing. But the fact that like all of these celebrities, their celebrities were there dancing, that's okay. That's sanguine, whatever. They're paying these people to be entertainers at their wedding, whatever. You know, we we pay for entertainment too at our wedding. We pay for I pay for a DJ, they pay for celebs dancing, you know, it's a little different. Yeah. But like what was awkward was that the bride and groom just looked like they were uncomfortable with each other.

SPEAKER_03

Like they did this one I want to say their first dance, and it was so she was wearing that pink feathery thing, and he was wearing like a black, like something. Yeah, it was so like it was almost like ring around the rosies, but like minus the two other people in the circle, right? It was just the two of them, it was so weird.

SPEAKER_02

Ring of the Ring Around the Rosie is so fun. The kids are having fun. They look like their parents forced them to be up there and do this performance the whole time.

SPEAKER_03

That's number one. And you do not do that if you are performing. You look up at this exit sign in the back.

SPEAKER_02

But like, let's say, even if you're not a good dancer, you're dancing with the person you're getting married, like you got married to, like your significant other. Some type of happiness, dude. It was like just awkwardness between them, uh everyone. It was very strange.

SPEAKER_03

It wasn't even between them two, like even her walking down the aisle was very awkward. Like, I don't know. And I was thinking, I was like, wait, what how why do I feel so different about this wedding and then the Ambani wedding? Ambani wedding, yes, was over the top. This one is also over the top, but the reason why I think Ambani wedding kind of meshed a little bit better is because they're actually friends with all of these Bollywood people.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, that's exactly what I was telling someone else down. That Ambani wedding, I get it. It was over the top, but these people are their friends. They they they dine and wine with them.

SPEAKER_03

It's like us performing for our friends' weddings, right? Like, yeah. Whereas this was like clearly people you paid for them to perform at your wedding, fine, but it just It just not the performances. Performances looked great.

SPEAKER_02

It was those looked great. No, it was just them, and it just felt very showy, very flashy. Look at us, look what we can do. And then a funny thing for me was that Jayla was Jayla looked gorgeous wearing the wearing a pink sari, like all glitz and gamut. But her, like, she looked more decked out than the bride, like so decked out. But anyway, I mean it was nice. And like was like participating in the cultural activities and stuff like that. So that was cool. But yeah, man, they got a lot of money to blow like that and then be like so awkward about it.

SPEAKER_03

Anyway, these are our opinions only, you guys. So whatever. Only our opinions. What do we matter?

SPEAKER_02

What do we care? Outside of the big fat Indian wedding, there's something else that's been trending on my awkward wedding. Big fat awkward wedding. Outside of that, something that's been trending on my on my newsfeed was that Nora Fatihi, Shraddha Kapoor, and Ori have been called in by um the Mumbai uh narcotics branch saying that.

SPEAKER_03

Oh. I saw that. It's about drugs.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. It's about drugs. Apparently, like they they go to like lavish drug-filled parties and like they have all these foreign connectors and they have like peddlers and all these type of things. But we know that yeah, but like apparently they're they're gonna they're fate interrogation. I think Ori was already called into to be interrogated about this stuff, so we'll see what that happens. But I did see Nora come out and say, like, this is lie, people are trying to defame me, people are trying to talk about him. She's like, I have no time for this type of bullshit. Like, I work 24-7, everyone knows I'm a hard worker, everyone knows I'm I'm pursuing my dream. I don't have time to do any of this nonsense and go to parties. I don't do that type of stuff. I still believe Nora. I believe Nora. I feel like the way she came out and said it, I believe her. Because she's a hustler. She comes up with a song almost every three months. She's doing some type of song, yeah. Some type of promotion. You know, new collabs. Yeah. Yeah. New collab with someone. She's constantly coming up with something. And we just talked about how she was on Jimmy Fallon last week.

SPEAKER_03

So, like, yeah, she's like, You can't be a drugie to do things, all these things.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, you I mean, you could be, because you know, some people do. But like, I don't know if she is or not. But yeah, that's all over my news right now. So, like, I don't know. We don't know what's gonna happen. It's a it's a developing story, so we'll see what happens if Ori if anything comes out of Ori's situation or not. Um, oh I well, I also saw something new coming out. And you know how like Bollywood did this thing about taking a song that they love and making that a song title? So a new movie nowadays, it's so dumb. Of course, it's all running out of ideas. Yeah, they just come up with it. So the the movie name is He Giovanito Ishkonah. Do you remember that song? Jovanito Ishkonahe. Uh-huh. I remember is that David Dowan? Is it exactly David Dowan movie? Um, and I think it was Slaman Khan that did that song. That song, they've taken it and David Dowan has made a new movie, to make a new movie with his son, Varun Dawan, and Mernal Tucker. Um and then I don't know if you heard, but you know the guy from Bads of Bollywood? We always bring this show up. Um, this brother that played um Oh, your bestie. The one you loved so much. I hated him so much, but that's why he's a good actor, right? So apparently his name, his name is Divik Sharma, and he's gonna be in Student of the Year 3, the movie that you're looking forward to come out. Student.

SPEAKER_03

No. There's no need for this. There was no need for two. There's no need for one. Now there's definitely no need for three with this. There's a three.

SPEAKER_02

And and it's Shania. Shania is the is the actress. Shania Kapor is gonna be Lord. This is her movie. I mean, she did one movie and she's gonna do another one. And then the last but not least, we've been talking about Madhury so much, she's gonna do a new movie on GeoHotstar called Mrs. Desh Bande. And as you said, Gavi, I think she needs the money. That's it. That's what's happening.

SPEAKER_03

I think not maybe not needs the money, but to like they have a lifestyle to live, right? And to sustain the lifestyle, you you you can't do it. She must work. Maybe not needs, but yeah, exactly. Well, I'm not looking forward to any of those movies. So thank you. Well, that is what's coming out.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, sure. On the sad side of Bollywood, Dermindra passed away, and it's a legend going away, and everyone in Bollywood says giving condolences. So it's pretty sad. He leaves behind, you know, his two sons and two daughters from his first wife, and then two daughters from his second wife. And um, I think it's a trying time for Bollywood. So many people, so many like really good stars have passed away, and everyone's pretty, pretty upset about it. And I saw like a clip of like Amitabh going, giving his like condolences, and it was like, oh look at Jay going to give his rights to Viru, because you know, their big movie was showing them together.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So it's pretty sad. He was a legend. He had so many movies, so many things that he contributed to the film industry. So pretty sad.

SPEAKER_03

I was actually, I told Sahe today, and Sahage is like, Oh, the dadu from Rocky Arani. Cause that's what I was I was like saying, like, because he's like, you know, he's gotten the older gener older older generation, then he's got like people like our age, and now even the younger ones know who he is because of he did Rocky Arani, right? So yeah. You know, yeah. Well, rest in peace, Mr. Darmendra. Thank you for all the good movies. Earlier this month there was an election here in the United States of America. Yes, yes, yes. And within this election, there was a really, really a few awesome things happened. Um, the governor of New Jersey and the governor of of Virginia are women. Amazing. Yes.

SPEAKER_02

And they were roommates while they were both serving in the House of Rep for their states.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, that I didn't know.

SPEAKER_02

That's cool. They're roommates, they became friends, and they both ran around the same time. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, that's so cute. Okay, well, that's really cool. Yeah. I had no idea. Thanks for that fun fact. Um but another fun fact, the New York City mayor, Daisy, our our very own Daisy boy, Zoran Mamdani, yes, won. And it was big. Everybody was excited about Zoran winning.

SPEAKER_02

Internationally, people were like, congratulations to your New York mayor win. Like, yes.

SPEAKER_03

Even remember we had Sonia on the other day. Even she was like, Wow, that's so great for you guys. Exactly. People were like, Good, yeah, look at you guys moving forward. Exactly. Well, guess what? Mr. Mamani is he's he's just not some mayor of New York City. He is the son of Mira Nair. Yes, he is. Yes, he is. And she's had some really amazing movies in her book of work. So, do you want to fill us in a little bit?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. So, like, I when when I saw Zahran come up, I was like, who is this guy? What does he do? Where does he come up? And I looked him up, and then I said, Oh my god, this is Mira Nair's son. What? Son, yeah. I know. I was like, she has a son this old who's running for like what? It was like, it was just kind of surreal because growing up watching her movies, and now all of a sudden he is here and running. And I didn't even know that they were they lived in the US or that her son was like here being representative and then like running for office or anything like that. So it was kind of like surreal to see that, like realize it as it was happening. And then like it's funny story that my sister, after Zahran one, she messaged, she's like, Do you know who her his mom is? I was like, Yeah, Mira and Ir. She's like, I just found out. Why am I the last one to know? Were you like, Do you know I have a Bollywood podcast? I was like, but anyway, yeah. So just like knowing Mira Nier and like that the movies that we watched, and they were so progressive at the time when she created them, and then having her son being the mayor of New York City is kind of like a big deal for us who have watched her movies and things like that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and I mean we don't live in New York. We don't live in New York City, but being the mayor of New York City is actually kind of a big deal. It's like being the president of the United States. It's kind of a big deal.

SPEAKER_02

He's a mayor of America. That's why people are calling him, right? I mean, I don't live there, but I grew up there, right? So for me, it's also like, oh, like it reminds me of home. And like it's me, it's a big deal being a by being from that area.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. And speaking of the president of the United States, did you see how excited Trump was when he when Zoran visited the White House? Yes, he was very excited. Giddy, he was so excited.

SPEAKER_02

It's like his crush just came next to him and hanging out with him.

SPEAKER_03

He was fangirling all everywhere. I mean, it was. It was.

SPEAKER_02

It was like he was so happy and like smiley, and he was just like, we had a great discussion, and discussion went really well. And I think he can do great things. Wait, hold on, sir. Were you not the one just like bashed him on your ex and like all of these different like social media outlets, calling him all these different things? And now you're like, he's a great guy. I think he's gonna do great for New York City.

SPEAKER_03

But yeah, also like he would it was almost like if Zoran said like even anything remotely bad about him to his face, he'd be like, Yeah, go on. Go on. Like he would say he was so happy.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, someone, someone asked, I think a news reporter asked him, like, do you still believe this about you know President Trump? And Do you believe Trump is a fascist? Is what the reporter asked. And what did Trump say? Well, was Jorman was trying to explain, and Trump was just like President Trump was like, no, like it's okay. Go ahead, you can say it. You can just say yes or no. It'll be easy. Just say yes. It'll be easy. Less explanation to do. Just say yes. Just say. And he was like laughing and saying it. It was just yeah, hilarious. And there's so many memes that have come out, but like, I want my boyfriend to look at me the way President Trump looks at Zaran. So funny.

SPEAKER_03

But anyway, of course, we tangent off of something that's totally non-Nijiwood. Yeah. Back to Mira Nair. Tell me more about her.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Well, she is like you consider like a like an OG global storyteller, right? Like, so Mira Nair was born in Orissa, India. Um, it's a part, I think her family is Punjab uh Punjab origin. Um her father is Emrith Lal Nair, and it was Indian administration an Indian administrative service officer, and her pr uh her mother was a social worker. So it's probably why like she has like so much more like about her movies are more geared to those type of stuff, too. Um and she studied sociology in Delhi University, and I think that like specifically in a female college called Miranda House, that's and she was part of the amateur theater club in Delhi too. So she was already like getting into theater and stuff like that. Um at the age of 19, she received a scholarship and got into Harvard, Cambridge Mechanics. Smarty too. Exactly. So she got went to Harvard for photography and then uh switched to uh doing films. Oh wow, she took nice. Yeah, she took yeah, exactly I know that's amazing, right? Being so smart, going to Harvard and all that at 19. And doing what you love at the end of it, like great, yeah, good for her. Exactly. And um, she took her first photography course and her uh course um and she did a thesis in Harvard that was about Jama Masjid Street Journal, and it was like a documentary about the streets of Delhi, and that got her like really like recognized amongst people, and she started a career in um documentary film documentary filmmaking. So one of them was called So Far from India, it's about an Indian newspaper vendor in New York City, so it just goes into life of that person, like how they're living in New York and what's happening with that. And then another one she did was India Cabaret, is about a female about female sex workers and strippers in Bombay and like how their lives are there. So again, like it just like goes into like the social issues and things that people don't talk about. And that's what made her like a lot of people. Like you're never gonna find an actual Bollywood move movie movie about that stuff. Back then, especially back then.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Exactly, exactly. And then there was another one that she did about children, it's called Children of Desired Sex, and it's about like the gender, about how people want. Certain gender, like they want the boy instead of the girl in Indian society. How like that's such a big thing about sex selections and all of that. So it kind of goes into that. So she did a lot of those type of things. I think her first uh film fiction was called Salam Bombay in 1988. Um I didn't even watch it. It was premiered in the cans and earned a um uh best feature award at that at that particular cans. Did you watch that one?

SPEAKER_03

I did. It was good. I I mean I watched it such a long time ago, so I don't you know me in my memory. I don't remember what it was, but I remember liking it. Like, because that's yeah, I just remember the movie and I I don't cringe. So yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Salam Bombay was that. And then she did in 1991 a movie called Mississippi Masala. And that this one I remember. I loved this movie. It was so good. Okay. This is Denz one of Denzel Washington's like earlier movies, and um, he looked so good, and this movie was really good. It was like before his time putting together like this family that came from India is in like somewhere in Mississippi, and then the girl, the female character, and Denzel meet and they fall in love and they want to get married. So it just touches that basis of it, like this interracial marriage in 1991 between an Indian woman and a black man is like pretty big, right? Like, you know, we know how the cultural differences are affect even nowadays. People still have issues with those types of uh cultural differences and marriages like that. Um, but she also did the Kama Sutra, which I never watched.

SPEAKER_03

Um obviously we everybody knows what Kama Sutra stands for, but yes, there's a love story. Naughty naughty hanky pankies, but the love story in that movie is so good. It's beautiful, and even the background music is actually really, really nice as well. Those are my two cents. Continue.

SPEAKER_02

I've never I've never seen it, so I'm not sure about uh anything about it, but what I did see was the movie Monsoon Wedding. And Monsoon Wedding was just so well done. It was just like this. I remember watching it, and I'm just like, how did someone come up with this whole story and how this one wedding has so much kalish in it, like so much like what how all this drama happens at wedding. So I remembered that part of it, and so it was a good movie to watch. But she's done so many other movies.

SPEAKER_03

The namesake it's like you know The Namesake is one of So I feel and if you haven't watched that muni, you should watch it because the it's about um you know how we grew up, like our parents came from India as immigrants, and we are first generation here, and how uh difficult and hard it was for our parents coming here to a new country, didn't really know it. My parents didn't know anybody when they came here. Um, and then like it's really good. You should watch it. You uh like I feel like first generation would really enjoy it or resonate with it.

SPEAKER_02

I think I didn't watch it because I feel like Yeah, like I feel like it the emotional pull, right? Like that part is it's because gets me sad. So that's probably why I never really watched it. But I know basics of the story and then like like what the parents go through and his name and like his dad, and like obviously he's one of the best actors of India. Oh yeah, Irkhan Khan and Tabu and Cal Pen. And Cal Pen, yep, exactly, exactly. So he's like great actors, right? And it's so like I'm sure is really good. And then um I forgot to mention that she did get married after her first marriage. She see they got divorced within like I think after eight years, and she got married to Sirhan Mamdani's dad, Mahmoud Mamdani, in 1991, and then they had their son in 1991 as well. And they just just stayed, um and they lived in Uganda and South Africa with like various like for various times throughout the year throughout their lifetime, and then they moved to New York, and that's where cur where they currently are right now.

SPEAKER_03

Oh nice. Actually, Money, I forgot something that she did do uh a suitable boy. So there's this big book. It's this big, this book. I have it because I've always wanted to read it because it looks really good. The cover is really pretty. Yeah, but it's so thick that I never got past like page one. But she did a five series five episode series. Um and Dabu and Ishan Kutter are in it. Yes, yes, okay. I didn't realize that was hers.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, that's her.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's her. And it's supposed to be really good. I haven't I haven't had a chance to watch it because it's hard to find like um British dramas in America unless it's like on Netflix or Netflix or something, and I haven't seen it on any of those platforms.

SPEAKER_02

Uh interesting fact that I recently heard was that apparently Ishan Kutter talks about how he dated an older woman. Yes, I saw that older women might be taboo. Blind eye too. Yeah, I don't know, allegedly, guys, allegedly.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. But anyway, I want to see that as well. But again, Mira and I are like she she has, and you know what? Like most of the one thing I do like about her, most of the um movies and things that she does, she bases it on a book. Like Namesake was Jumpalahari's book, um, The Suitable Boy was Vikram Seth's book.

SPEAKER_02

So I mean she's built a significant presence as an Indian filmmaker with international success, and everyone knows her name, and now everyone in the US will definitely remember her name, no one will forget that um because of her son. But you know, I she is working on a couple of different things, but nothing has been finalized. So I'm hoping she comes up with no h newer stuff so we can watch and see like what I'll I mean, she's such a great director, it would be really nice to see what she comes up with next.

SPEAKER_03

So Mira Nair was like one of the first off the Bollywood beat directors, right? So another director, Gurinder Cheddah, I don't know if you've heard of her, but she did movies like Bend It Like Becky. Do you remember that movie? Oh, yes, yes, I remember that movie. And again, that's another movie that like reminds me a lot of my childhood because I remember watching it back then. I think it must have been in high school or something when it came out. So Gurinder Chedda, she is um, she was born in Nairobi, Kenya to Indian parents. Um she's Punjabi. Yep. Another Punjabi, another Punjabi, yeah, yeah. So she's um she like I said, she was born in Kenya, but then eventually they moved to the UK and they moved to South Hall, which is like one of the biggest neighborhoods for like they's immigrants.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, like you always hear about South Hall. You always hear about South Hall growing up, watching any movie.

SPEAKER_03

Have you been to South Hall?

SPEAKER_02

I have not.

SPEAKER_03

I have. It's fantastic. I love it. Like people are driving down with loud Punjabi music. Oh my god, I love it so much. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_02

It's but you always hear about South Hall in movies, like all the time. Whenever we talk about London, South Hall, South Hall. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So um, yeah, so that's that's essentially where she kind of picked up a lot of her cultural influences, which she eventually put into her movies. So, like Kenya, uh, the UK, and then of course with the Daisy roots with your parents, right? Like she got a lot of the Daisy um influences. Something sad that did happen, not not to her in particular, but her father, um, he wore a turban. So there was a lot of racism against him because he looked different from everybody else, right? So I think that also kind of like put in a lot of influences into some of her movies and stuff because like the prejudiceness and all that kind of stuff. Like it's just it's not a nice feeling when somebody is like looking down upon you just because you look different. It's dumb, honestly.

SPEAKER_02

But we all we all face it somehow, one way or another, right? Like coming from American parents, like we talked about, we faced it somehow, somewhere. So yeah. Yeah, of course not.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it's just being first generation anywhere in the world, right? Like no matter what your culture is, but if you're first generation in like a new country, yeah, you're there's something that's gonna feel.

SPEAKER_02

It's unfortunate, yeah, it's gonna be that way.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah. So she started her um entertainment career, let's say, in as a news reporter. So she didn't go straight into films, but she did. Um she was a news reporter, and then she um directed some award-winning documentaries on BBC, and some of them were like uh following lives of yuck young British Asians, and just to say Asians is not like um it's like Southeast Asians, like are we South Asian? No, we're just South Asians, right? Okay, we're South Asian, and there's East Asians. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so um it was it was following the young lives of British Asians, and by Asians, like in I remember when I went to London for the first time, like all my friends were like, Oh, there's another Asian, there's another Asian. I'm like, where, where? And I'm expecting to see like East Asians, and there's just Daisy's, and I'm like, wait, you call what? You're calling us Asian, and it's because it's South Asians, I guess, is what they just say Asians, anyway. Um so she established a production company and she started her first film, and it was called A Nice A Nice Arrangement. Um and it was about a Daisy wedding, and it was selected for the Cannes Film Festival in 1991. Wow, amazing. So that yeah, so that kind of like brought out this love of film for her, I think. And also, like, if you're getting like accolades for it too, right? You're gonna be like, oh, I'm gonna do some more. So then she did um a few other movies. I don't know if you've heard of Bhaji on the beach. No, I have not. Okay, it's another one of her movies, kind of like Bennett Like Beckham, but way before Bennett Like Beckham. Um so Bened Like Beckham also was one of her really, really good movies, and that's that was in 2002. And right after Bennett Like Beckham, yeah, Bride and Prejudice with Miss Ice Royal Rai. Yes, and also Mistress of Spices with Miss Ice Roya Rai. Yes. Um, and I think Muni, you're gonna be very, very excited to hear that her latest movie is called Christmas Karma, and our very own Priyanka Chopra has a Daisy version.

SPEAKER_02

Like I I was just like, why? Why do we need this? Why did we need this? That's all I need to do.

SPEAKER_03

But you know what? I am kind of excited to see it because I do like Kunala movie a lot. Yeah, the movie. The movie, fine, but the song, why? Why does she? I know, I know. Oh, and actually, did you know who the ghosts are? Who they're not doing. I didn't see Oh my god. The ghost of the past is Eva Langoria. Um ghost of the present is Billy Porter. I don't know who that is, and the ghost of the future is Boy George. Oh wow. This sounds really fun. It does look really fun. It sounds really fun, yeah. Yeah, I think it'll be like a fun, like, you know, like a fun like Christmas movie, right? Just to watch during the Christmas during Christmas time. It'd be nice.

SPEAKER_02

It's a nice movie to watch, yeah. Like whole, like a wholesome movie to watch.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. But let's see. Back to Gurinder Cheda. What other things can I tell you about her? Um, she's married to an American screenwriter. They have twins, um, a boy named Ronak and a girl named Kumiko. Oh, that's a cute name, Kumiko. Or one thing about Gurinder Cheddar that's a little bit different than Mira and Ira is she she mixes in a lot of comedy into her films, whereas Mira and Ira is like very um real, right? So I kind of enjoy that about um uh Grinder Chedda's movies, but I also I really do like Mira and Ira movies too. So I think like either genre that you pick, like you're gonna get a good movie if there's directed by one of these women, I think.

SPEAKER_02

So absolutely, absolutely. Like they're they're different styles, and maybe real and you know, the type of movies that Mira and Ira does isn't your type of flavor, but Gurinda Chedda does movies are fun, they're rom-com style movies that you would enjoy watching them and things like that. So, yeah, Bendelagbeckum, Bride and Prejudice are great movies that I've watched myself. Um, and they're good, and they're good, and they're good, and they're easy watches, and they have great characters and great actors, and it's really fun to watch. So, yeah, definitely different styles, but both equally good movies to watch.

SPEAKER_03

Entertaining, exactly. Very entertaining, yeah. Some of the upcoming, what some of her upcoming work though, we talked about the Christmas movie that's coming out this year. I think it might be out actually. I don't know if it's out this this week or last week. But um earlier this year, she announced making the sequel of Bendit Like Beckham. So I think of that, yeah, and it's supposed to release to coincide with uh 2027's uh FIFA Women's World Cup in Brazil. Oh wow, so that's kind of cool because Bennett Like Beckham was about soccer, and then you got the Women's World Cup coming up. So very I mean, I don't know. I'm interested in watching more things from her. So I'm gonna watch this Christmas movie. It's called Christmas Karma, and then watch it in the I don't know if I'm gonna you know what? I feel like this would be a fun theater watch for Saheage. I really think he might enjoy it. Maybe let me check it out. Let me yeah, let me make sure it's like kid friendly too, because you never know what some of these are. Yeah, they'll probably be fun for Sah to watch. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02

I think so.

SPEAKER_03

But yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing what else she's got. Um, you know, I'm sure she's got uh other things aside from Ventura and the sequel.

SPEAKER_02

They've all the movies that she has done, we like it so far. It's good. So anything new that she comes up with is probably gonna be good, but I just don't like the song that bothers me so much. So I don't know about that.

SPEAKER_03

Maybe, I mean, I don't think it's gonna be running throughout the whole thing. So God. But I'm telling you, she's making me like her, Priyanka Chopo. Oh, because of this song. I mean, I don't like her song. Because of her varanasi with Mahesh Babu and SS Rajamoli.

SPEAKER_02

Remember, she has done nothing, but she has done nothing but come present, and you're like, I love her. Another director, a female director, also with the same type of flavor, off the beat, Bollywood, um, is the director Deepa Meta.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, okay, I'm gonna say it. Out of these three women that we are talking about, I think Deepa Meta, I think she might be one of my favorites.

SPEAKER_02

I didn't realize how how many of the movies that I know that I like are of her movies. Like I didn't realize that. So yeah, so Deepa Meta is from or Mr. Punjab, another Punjabi Kudie. Um all three have this year, I didn't realize all three of these directors are gonna be from Punjab. Um Right, I didn't realize that. So her father was a yeah, her father was a film distributor, he owned a theater, and that that exposed her to cinema. Like that's how she got into cinema in such a young age. She grew up watching films, spending time around movies all the time. And she studied philosophy at University of Delhi. I didn't realize they see parents let their kids study anything outside of engineering and doctor. Well, here you go. We found one. One out of busy parents. I I mean, I yeah, philosophy in the University of Delhi, but yeah, hey, she studied that's what she studied. Um she started she's finished her studies and started working in educational films in India. And then around in the 70s, she moved to Canada. And then she started Yeah, she moved to Canada in the 70s, and then um she married Canadian filmmaker Paul Saltzman, and that's where she got into like doing making movies and things like that. Um her move to Canada is what like kind of like influenced her in her filmmaking a little bit. Mm-hmm. And just like the other ladies we mentioned already today on um uh Mira Nair and Guru in the Chaddah, she started with documentaries and short films in India, and that's how it started first.

SPEAKER_03

I think she's a little bit more do you do you think she's a little bit more like real, like Mira Nair? I think she is. I personally think she is.

SPEAKER_02

Her stuff is more about social, like very much in that in the cultural route to a very real as well. So like if she moved she um she worked on television and documentaries, and that's probably why that realism that we see in her movies come into it. She focused a lot about social issues, culture, and just like the Indo-Canadian identity. And then the first film that she directed is a movie called Sam and Me in 1991 that won an honorable mention at the Cannes Film Festival. Oh, nice. Yeah, yeah, and then internationally, this is how I know of her. She's done the Elements, the known for Elements. The dance movie. No, no, no, not the dance. Before The Dance came out, it was the trilogy called the her movies were called Fire, Earth, and Water.

SPEAKER_03

And all of them, except Earth was not that good, but I did love fire and water a lot.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, I didn't see Fire or Earth. I did see Water because Water featured Lisa Ray, absolutely beautiful woman. Like, I don't know how something was. And more importantly, it featured John Abraham. John Abraham, also a very handsome man. So, like, very so I I watched that and it was it was talked about again, social issues about you know widows and what happens to them and like some of these social issues that come with it. So one of the movies that I remember uh was um Bollywood Hollywood. Do you remember that? Yes, exactly. That was also Lisa Ray and Rahul Kana. Lisa Ray and Rahul Kana's the only movie I think Rahul Kanna did that like people. That we know of that we know of because he did a lot of theater stuff. Yeah, Akshekana, if you don't know who Ra Rahul Kanna is, that's Akshekana's brother, we know that Kanna's other son.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, he's always naked in all of his Instagram pictures for some reason. Oh god.

SPEAKER_02

No. She received an um received an Academy Award nomination for Best Forum Film for Water. She didn't actually win it, but she was nominated for it. Um It was a very um what's the word?

SPEAKER_03

Very not deep, but very um controversial topic.

SPEAKER_02

It was a very controversial topic. Controversial and very um emotional too. So like I thought it was I I don't know I thought it was like a revelation like for me to watch that movie was kind of like seeing how it was because I didn't really understand the culture that way. That like that. Same here.

SPEAKER_03

I didn't know this existed in our our part of because I mean the part of India that I that my parents are from that like I never heard of this, so it was very different for me to see this.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I didn't I didn't hear I never grew up with like that type of I never see I never saw that type of stuff, I never understood it. And in Islam we don't we don't have that type of stuff either. So like it's very different for me, just for me to see I was like, oh my god, this will actually happen. And that's like you know, it's very shocking that way to see it. So I could see why it would cause controversy in India for people to like protest against it. So those are the movies, some of the amazing movies that she has done. So it does seem like she's working on some projects, but it's complete, it hasn't been named yet. I mean, all three of these women of Indian origin are shaping the global cinema for you know, out there making all the things.

SPEAKER_03

And they started it like decades ago, right?

SPEAKER_02

Yes, decades. From documentary to journalism to storytelling and coming up with these fantastic movies that and they're known all around the world by their movies, by the work.

SPEAKER_03

Eye-opening movies, right? Like you were just talking about water and how it was like, oh, didn't even realize this happened in our culture, but it does. So yeah, very I'm I want to see more from them, and I hope you know more will be coming soon for us to experience.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and tell us some of your favorite movies by these directors, if there are that you saw, or maybe the one that you didn't know about and you want to watch now because we talked about it.

SPEAKER_03

Or if we missed uh one of these Bollywood offbeat queens, maybe we did.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, maybe we did. Let us know.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, Money, it is blindy windy time. Are you ready? Give me something. Yes, give it some. So this blind, one of the one of the people's comments is really funny. Okay, okay. Bolo bolo. This young heartthrob was launched by a filmmaker who excelled at making rom-coms. Yeah, obviously you know who this is. They've been giving they've been given several hits together. The filmmaker's last few movies did not feature the Young Heart Throb. As per a source, the filmmaker and Young Heartthrob have been discussing several projects for their next collaboration. An unconventional young man and older woman romance is something that they've zeroed in on. Do you know what somebody commented? Comment the card and jail budget.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my god. Why do they keep calling him young hearth? I don't know. They got they got problems. Seriously, what is wrong? Yeah, budget. Oh my god. Whoever got it. Can you imagine that?

SPEAKER_03

Hilarious.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my gosh. She'd yell at him. I don't know who that older couple, I don't know who the older woman is, but definitely they didn't know nobody answered really. Well, those are your blinds.

SPEAKER_03

Thank you. Thank you for the blinds. You're very welcome. Okay, money. It is vowed time. What are the polls say?

SPEAKER_02

Well, the polls this week are talking about the song Kamalhe by King. It's a really fun song. I like it.

SPEAKER_03

I like King. I have feel like I haven't heard of him for a while, so I'm glad he's gonna be.

SPEAKER_02

In a while, yeah. Yeah, me too.

SPEAKER_03

Good. Good job, King.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, good job, King.

SPEAKER_04

What's your vow?

SPEAKER_02

Okay, I haven't heard anything new lately that I've loved, but I went back to some of my older songs that I like. There's a song called Roina from Mitraz, that's really good. Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, you love that group too, Mitraz. I do love Mitraz, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

But I think it split up, so it's kind of sad. Sad.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, it's like Mitr and Raz.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, okay, mom.

SPEAKER_03

So my vow, I'm bringing Car now Jubb back. There is a song called Winning Speech. It's really, really fun. Um like it. Okay, well, this was a fun late night episode. Yes, late night episode. Hope you guys enjoy it.

SPEAKER_02

Like, share, follow. Bye.

SPEAKER_01

My time a bit to baki babuka meet Bala to need a cane hullet and dia. Bala nid and I can gur it and bend it like that, comment.

SPEAKER_03

I just told you. Obviously, obviously, I don't want to watch any of those. Obviously, it's midnight and we're both very tired. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I guess now that you followed him.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, I don't like how he's naked in every picture, but I'm just I'm sure that is not why you like it. That's not why you're following it. Sure. Oh Lord. Um We're always doing something with our hands. I know, well now I'm gonna be pushing up my glasses on my face. So that's better than me like touching my nose.

SPEAKER_02

You should do a video of me pushing up my videos. How many times is Santa Link? Oh my god, constantly doing this, touching my nose. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Let's go. Okay. Uh Gurindra Okay, shut up, go away. Yeah, okay. So it's naked someone kind and tell us. Just read that. Just read that. Okay, just read that side. Yeah, so I'm telling you. This lady crazy comes out. Okay. Okay. I'm trying to see if I can see what the motherfucker can. Actually, I look really good, Lori. I mean, you always look good, but you look good, Lori.

SPEAKER_02

I'm gonna snip that part where your face was like this.