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3 Film Deal: Dream Launch or Career Crunch

Season 2 Episode 20

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This week, we’re diving into Bollywood’s most famous contract, the three-film deal. You’ve seen the stars it created, like Ranveer, Alia, and Anushka, and the ones it left hanging between scripts and studio promises.

We’re unpacking how Yash Raj Films turned signings into stardom, how Dharma polished its own classroom of stars, and why some actors thrived while others got lost waiting for their third film.

From career launches to creative lockdowns, we’re asking the real questions. Did these deals actually make Bollywood better? Who got the best bargain? And is the studio system finally losing its shine in the OTT era?

Pour yourself a strong cup, this episode’s serving contracts, control, and plenty of chai.


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SPEAKER_04:

Hello Money, how are you today? I'm good. How are you? I'm so I'm really tired and have a reason for being tired today because Sahaj was sick last night and I had a very sleepless night. Oh, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03:

I'm gonna do a compilation of all the episodes. Of me saying tired. Yes.

SPEAKER_04:

But this one's real, this is real tired.

SPEAKER_03:

I think every time he's real tired. Every time he's real tired. But yeah. But this one is like because I mean obviously Sahaj is sick and you have to take care of him. Yeah. Was he up all night?

SPEAKER_04:

Like what what what happened? Like in the like around, I think it was around like three. No, not even three, earlier than that. I don't even know. And like he's like, Mom, I don't feel good. And I felt him was like burning up. And I'm like, okay, you're sick. Um, so then I just like you know, gave him some medicine and then he felt better, and then he woke up again. And you know how it is when you're not feeling good, you just don't feel good. So he's watching TV upstairs though.

SPEAKER_03:

So um, yeah, like you said, it's holiday time. So like Thanim had his holiday party um for his company like last week. And it was um they did like a koali night at uh at dinner because the owners are uh like brown. I was gonna say, are they this y? They're this y. So they did like koali and dinner, and they invited like a lot of people. And it was it was actually really fun. It was really fun to see everyone, like his coworkers. And then um we did our holiday party last night for my company, and that was also like it was like I was helping organizing it. So like it was a lot of my time the last like three months, just like trying to organize this and put this together. So that's done and out of the way. So I'm very happy about that. But it was really successful, it was really good.

SPEAKER_04:

Okay, Money, so what did you watch this weekend? Anything fun?

SPEAKER_03:

All right, well, so there's a new movie. Uh sorry, I keep saying new movie about it, but it's an episode, a new series on Netflix called Single Papa, and it's with Kunal Kemu. It's actually really cute. I liked it. It was only it's only six episodes, and it was about this like one uh about Kunal Kemu, a divorced f a divorced guy, and he all of a sudden gets a little baby. But it was a cute story if you wanted to watch it.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh good. What did you watch? I um what did I watch? I watched a few different things. Oh, I watched that Ariane. Remember we talked about it, I think, right? Yeah. Yeah, how was that? You know, I thought it would be really good because like the trailer looked really good to it. It was not very it looks so good.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh no, it looks so good on my list.

SPEAKER_04:

No, I don't know. Like I feel like it was maybe it was too slow, and then then you okay, so it's about this killer and he goes and kills people, but then you're like, okay, they really a killer that goes and kills people? And you're like, okay, well, there must be like a good reason for him to do it because it's it wasn't like you know, and then you find out it kind of is in a way it's I don't know, it just didn't make sense. I'm like, this is this is a dumb reason for a serial serial killer. I've seen uh many. This is a dumb one. Like I've seen many better ones. This is like dumb. And then I saw um the P. Diddy Chronicles. Oh the documentary, the docuseries on uh Netflix. Yeah, it's also like four, five, six, six uh episodes. I can't remember exactly how many episodes, but there are there's stuff in there that I had no idea had happened. And this was produced by Mr. Fiddy Cent. And this guy, I mean, taking pettiness to another level, and I love it. Money, you and I are not living up to our full potential on pettiness, and that yeah, the pettiness level has to rise up.

SPEAKER_03:

Like, we gotta get to his level. Like, I kept seeing that on like all different like people posting it on um Instagram saying, like, my pettiness level needs to get to 50 cents pettiness level.

SPEAKER_04:

Like, we are not the right we're not, no, and it is um, but it's really interesting. You definitely should watch it. Okay, it's really, really good. Yeah, but aside from that, the docuseries is very good. I do recommend it if you're really into like hip-hop and stuff like that. Um, it's it's just like a different view on like that hip-hop culture and stuff like that. It's it's good. Um, and then I'm what okay, so I'm watching this other show called not show, sorry, it's a movie called Steven. It's a thummel movie on on Netflix. So far it's actually really psycho and really good. So I recommend it if you're into psycho movies like I am. But no, I am not. You are psycho. Okay, Money, what are the trendy Wendy's happening today?

SPEAKER_03:

This week. Oh god, what is trendy wendy's? All right, fine. Trending topics. All right, the only thing that's really trending on my feed this week is about Durander. So Durander and Beer Sing's movie um released a week ago, and people are obsessed about it. It's being everyone's talking about this like huge spy thriller. It's like massive hit right now. People are talking about his acting, everyone's acting, actually, not just his, but Akshay Kanna's acting, uh, Arjun Rampal's acting, Armadhavan, like all of them are in it, and they're just talking about how like good it is. So I haven't seen it yet, but I want to go see it, see how it's up, what's it about?

SPEAKER_04:

I've seen the trailer, and Armadhavan does not look like Armadhavan. I mean, he looks so different. Nope. And the Akshay Akshay Kanna's getting his due now, finally. And I mean he's I think he's the one that's most spoken spoken about right now. I haven't seen much about Renvier. I've never seen a lot about Akshay Kanna.

SPEAKER_03:

He's a great actor, but this like brought us, brings us back to like the round table scenario that we keep seeing popping up between Renve when Renveer, a bunch of other younger stars were on it, and Akshakanda was there. And Akshakanda's face, while Renveer is talking, his animated extra weight with his extra outfit.

SPEAKER_04:

He looks like a Shakespearean play, but like a flamboyant Shakespearean play on South Beach.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Yes.

SPEAKER_03:

And Akshakanda's face and that was hilarious. Just like, what is this man talking about? It's almost like, why did they put me here? Like, why did they think I belong here? Exactly. It was kind of felt like that. Aishman Kurana was trying to talk to him too, and Akshikana was not feeling it. He's like, What is this? Why am I here? But but yeah, it's just the the movie's really good and the soundtrack. Have you heard all the songs? So good.

SPEAKER_04:

Love, love the songs.

SPEAKER_03:

They are really, really good.

SPEAKER_04:

And I bet you they're even better if you watch it with the movie, you know?

SPEAKER_03:

So I'm sure. I'm sure. Yep, exactly. Exactly. Um, well, that's the most stuff I have on my trending topics.

SPEAKER_04:

I have something trending. I don't I'm surprised you didn't see it. Did you see that? Um No, what is it? Tell me. Lionel Messi is in India right now. Oh, I did see that. I did. Okay, so let me tell you about this. This is called the GOAT tour. They call Messi the GOAT, greatest of all time, which she is, I must agree. And I'll tell you why I like Messi. So I used to work in Tampa at a corporate office, and they would have um all of these like TVs up during the World Cup. And one of my friends was like, Hey Cubby, who's your favorite team? Who are you cheering for? I'm like, I don't know. And I looked at all the TV screens. I'm like, that one. And it was the one wearing the light blue jersey because light blue is my favorite color. Since then, I've been an Argentina fan, and then obviously the greatest player on Argentina is um Lionel Messi. There are other very good players on Argentina, but Lionel Messi, obviously, everybody knows Messi is Messi, right? Yeah. Um Messi is Messi. Everybody knows. Everybody knows that. So back to the GOAT tour in India. Now here's where it actually really got messy with a Y and not Messi with an I. In Kolkata, they had the it was the first, it was he first landed in Kolkata, and the I don't know what happened. The organizers, for whatever reason, they uh brought Messi out into the stadium, and like they were like all of the the like celebrities and the pol politicians were all like wrapped around Messi. You could you did not know who he was because they were so tightly around him, and the crowd was getting so annoyed. And I think what he was supposed to do is he was supposed to come and like greet, say a few words, and then like maybe play a little bit of soccer with the local teams at like you know, whoever they invited to come into the stadium, right? Well, this didn't happen in Kolkata. The fans got so annoyed that they could not see Messi, and I think Messi's security detail also were a little bit annoyed that you know it was just so unorganized that they took him away and he was only there for like 10-15 minutes in Kolkata, apparently.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh man. Yeah, I think I did see this. I did see this, and they did show like that it was like the VIP politicians like all surrounding him. Like he couldn't go.

SPEAKER_04:

It was so ill.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. He was supposed to do like interactions, I guess, with like the audience.

SPEAKER_04:

I mean, like throw throw football into the into the stands, like not really, because there's so many people you can't really interact with each and every one of them.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, like interaction in the I mean like interaction in the stadium itself, like do stuff so they can see people can see him exactly. Like watch him dribble a ball. Like that, that in itself is amazing, you know? Like, but he was surrounded, like I think you like you said that he was surrounded by politicians and he couldn't do anything, and his security people were just like, what the hell? We gotta get out of here. And right after that, I guess a riot started, right?

SPEAKER_04:

Yes. So people like from the stands were throwing water bottles, whatever they had in their hand, it looked like they were just throwing that into the stadium. And because of that, like the organizer got arrested. And I mean, I guess he got arrested because he had a lack of organizational skills, but obviously I'm sure he took money, so I'm sure it probably is more like a money-related thing that he got arrested on. Because oh, they also said that they're gonna try to refund, not try, they are going to refund everybody, all the ticket holders, because some of these ticket holders spent like lots and lots of money just to be a like one of the maybe not V VIP, but a VIP or something, and they didn't get to do their interaction with Lionel Messi. That's messed up, yeah. That's messed up. Oh, and also um Luis Suarez and Rodrigo de Paul, they also came with him and they were like, I think they were all just like, what is happening here? Because they don't know, they don't know obviously they don't know Hindi or anything, right? They don't know any of the Indian languages. Yep, yeah. But then I don't think they really know English all that well. I think they can understand it, but I I'm not sure if they know how to speak it back as as well as um you know one of us. Well, that part of the leg was very messy, but then um he went on to Hyderabad, uh Delhi, and then the latest pictures I'm seeing is he went to um he was with Anantambani and Jam Nagar. So and I loved every I mean from Hyderabad onwards, it it was great. Like all of his interactions with the crowd, the politicians were overcrowding, there was not very many celebrities, and if they were they just calmly did their thing and then they walked back away. So it was it was good, and I loved all the pictures that I saw from Jum Nugger. Like he did like he went to the tent their the temple that they have there and he did like a mini puja and then because you know how he's a lot of animals, right? Ananthambani, that's like the whole thing of Jum Nuggar. It's supposed to be like a a natural preserve. And I think they enjoyed themselves too. They looked really happy, all three of them.

SPEAKER_03:

Um I did I did see that, I did see that. And you missed in Kalkata, wasn't um Shah Rukhan there. Oh yeah, I forgot.

SPEAKER_04:

Shahukhan was there in like the mob, and I think even Shah Rukhhan felt embarrassed that this was happening in his country to a guest, right? Like, cause he it just was so ew. But of course, this was also backstage, but even backstage, it was that like there was so much hangama for no reason. I mean, I I know the reason. The reason is Lionel Messi, but like you could have not let so many people in, Dumbo. Yeah. So some of the celebrity that were there, Shah Ru Khan met him with his son. Uh I saw Shopasetti and her son took a picture with him, Karina Kapur Khan and her son took pictures with him. And then so for some weird reason in Bombay, Ajay Dev Gun and Tiger Shruff came and they got like awarded on stage where Lionel Messi and Luis Suarez and Rodrigo de Parapal are looking like, what is happening here? It's so weird. And also in Bombay, this is actually a really nice moment. Also in Bombay, Sunil Chetri, who is the number one Indian footballer, he's actually number four in the amount of goals that he made in the world. So Messi's number one, Rodaldo's number two, I forgot who's number three, but he's number four. And the fact that those two met, that was actually a really nice moment, I thought that the like, you know, that two footballers that love the game so much met, and it was cute. It was nice. I like that.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay, nice, awesome. So yeah, okay. Well, hopefully the rest of his tour was fine.

SPEAKER_04:

It seemed like it was fine. I think he em it in Jums Jum Nugger. He he got there in a Rolls-Royce, so I'm sure it went well. So, Mundi, um, I'm gonna take you back a few months when we both of us watched The Bads of Bollywood and loved it. Yes, how can we forget about this? So good, right? So there was one part of the Bads in Bollywood that uh kind of stood out to me. I don't know if it stood out to you, but the three-film deal, do you remember when um what was his name? The the main director, producer, guy? Sordawala. Yes, Sordavala. He comes up to um Asman Singh and is like, I need you to sign this because you're gonna be exclusive, exclusive actor for whatever productions they were called, right? At the time. So the three-film deal, Muni, I thought we could break down this three-film deal because if they're talking about it on a So I think it's a satire, right?

SPEAKER_03:

So it takes what's in the Indian film industry and like put that into the story. So that's why it got our brains thinking, like, what could this be?

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, like is this real? Like, because we, you know, like is this uh are they just making fun of it because it's real or are they making fun of it because they're making fun of it? Yeah who knows.

SPEAKER_03:

Yes.

SPEAKER_04:

So you and I did our little research.

SPEAKER_03:

Yes.

SPEAKER_04:

Now, the first one of the first production companies to me that comes to mind when it when you talk about three film deal with new actors, Yeshraj films by RF. Yes, okay, and I don't know if it was more when Yash Chopra was around or it started when Aditya Chopra was around. And I think it started when Aditya took over. That's what I think.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, that's what I think it happened because he came in and tried to transform YRF, how the face of YRF looked when he came in and did all these different changes. So I think he's the one who actually started it.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, he tried to make it cool and and like flashy, whereas Yesh Chopra, it was very thisy, right? Like it was very like sometimes village-y, but the stories were like true romantic stories, right?

SPEAKER_03:

Whereas now it's like romance, it was all about romance, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

And now like Yashraj films, like for example, Doom, like, you know, that it was so like like Hollywood style. It is very Hollywood style, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, the different type of masala.

SPEAKER_04:

All right, so when we talk about three-film deals with Yashraj films, um, any actors that come to mind with for you?

SPEAKER_03:

I think the I think the first early ones are I think Anushka Sharma, right? She is a YRF girl and um did the three-film deal with them.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, I think she started with um Rabhne Banadi Jori with Mr. Shah Rukhan. Like, that's pretty big for your first film. Absolutely. That is a huge deal, right? And you know what? I'll have to say most newcomers they have to grow on me for a little bit, but I I liked her kind of immediately. I really liked her.

SPEAKER_03:

I didn't love her in Rabnibanadi Jordi, but I grew to like her a lot. Like I grew to like her. Um, her like her personality uh outside of like movies and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_04:

I liked her. Um, so what are the th her three films then? I think it's Rabani Banadi Jordi was the first one.

SPEAKER_03:

Yes.

SPEAKER_04:

Badmash company is a second one. I've never heard of this movie, but I think it was with Shahid.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, it was with Shahid Kapoor. I don't remember it being a hit or anything, but yeah, that's her sec that's her second movie.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, and then Ban Bhaja Bharat, which I wasn't a big fan of this movie. It was I thought it was a fun movie, but that's kind of about it.

SPEAKER_03:

I actually like Ban Bhaja Bharat. Um I liked it more than Rabnabanai Jordi. Uh Ramibanaya Border. Oh, really? I just thought it was fun. And it had great songs in it too, right? Like such good songs. I think it was Rab Nebanadi Jordi. They had good songs in it too. Name one.

SPEAKER_04:

The main the main title song, Rab Nebanati Jordi.

SPEAKER_03:

It's so boring. It's a boring song. Go to sleep.

SPEAKER_04:

Go to sleep. You just go away. You need to know. Um, okay. I do. I am so tired. Um, but okay, so speaking of Ban Bhajabharat, yes. Can we transition into another three-film dealer? Mr. Renvier Singh. What are your thoughts on him?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, Renvier Singh also got that three-film deal, and he I think those, I think Anushio Sharma and Renvier Singh are his like success stories, right? So Renvier Singh uh came in with Ban Bhaj Bharat. That was his debut movie. And um, and yeah, I thought he was good. I act I didn't think he was great looking. I think we talked about like he didn't look like he was that great looking. Hero material. Yeah, hero material, but he did a really good job in that movie. I really liked him in that. And then I think he did Ladies versus Ricky Ball. Was that the second one for him? So once he finished Lady versus Ricky Bale, he uh did a couple other movies that weren't part of YRF. So I guess that whole thing about like, you know, Sodawala, you have to sign a you know, three-film deal, consecutively do three film deals with them, it doesn't really fully apply to YRF with certain people, I guess. Because with Renvere, he did other movies in between um after he finished his first two movies with YRF. So either they got like special treatment.

SPEAKER_04:

I think it's special treatment because Renvier, even though he likes to say that he didn't have any industry backing, uh we all know that Sonam Kapoor and he are cousins on his mom's side. Yes, it's just not it's just not as openly discussed for some reason. I don't know why. Maybe because her mom is not in the movies, but the dad is. I have no idea why.

SPEAKER_03:

I don't know why either, and I didn't realize it until Sonam Kapoor got married, and he was in all the events, and I was just like, that's weird because Sonam and Dipika really don't like each other. Why would Renvere actually be there?

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Yeah, forgot about that.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, Sonam and Sonam and Dipika don't like each other, so like why would Renvere be there? And then later on, someone's like, no, that's because that's her cousin through her mom's side, and that's why it's like, oh well, that makes sense why he's everywhere. That's what makes sense why him and Arjun Kapoor are such best friends because they probably hung out together as kids all the time.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, and I don't think it's his mom, I don't think his mom is like sisters with her his dad or something, but I think it's um they're like cousins or something, they're some cousin related, yeah, yeah. They're like second cousins. Sonam and him are like second cousins. Yeah, exactly. But he he has connections to the industry. So Renvier's saying, stop trying to mislead people and let us think that you came up on your own. No, you didn't, sir. I think everyone knows now, though.

SPEAKER_03:

I think every I think in the beginning people didn't know, but I think listen to our podcast now. Yeah, those people know too. Yeah, so yeah, so he so after he'd been finished doing ladies versus Vicky Bell, he did uh Bombay Takis, Lutera, and he also did um Ram Lila, Sanjay Lila's Bonsali's movie, also. Um and he I think I think Ram Lila really moved him up. I think that's where he like his trajectory trajectory went up. He excelled. I think that was a great movie. I thought he did a great job in that one. And after that, he did Gunde with YRF. Which was the YRF the third film. The third film with the third film with YRF, which actually was not that good, I think.

SPEAKER_04:

But the difference between him and Anushka is I don't think Anushka had any backing, right? Versus where this guy knew some people in the industry and like kind of worked his way in. Whereas Anushka, I think, was discovered as a model or something like that.

SPEAKER_03:

So yeah, I think something like that. That's true. I think that's something like that. And then and then I think she's And that's but that's why Anushka had the three consecutive films, right? I mean YRF. Yeah, our opinion and what we think it is that with Anushka, because she had no backing, she must must have signed that three film deal contract, done that, and had her three movies done. And lucky for her, all the three movies that she did was mostly successful in some way or another. But yeah, so those are the the ones that we know that are YRF that started off and that they were successful. But there are some of them that have not been successful, being part of that group, you know, the that era of From YRF? From YRF, yes. So can I can I name one? Yeah, sure. Go ahead, of course.

SPEAKER_04:

Vonnie Kapoor. Yeah. Poor Vonnie Kapoor, man. I, you know, I don't know. I feel like every time she tries to do a movie, something happens and it backfires. She started off with Should They See Romance with uh Shushan Singh, who I love.

SPEAKER_03:

But I think was that his first movie too with YRF? I don't know. I think that one may have been his first movie with YRF, but that's not his first movie. But that's his first movie with YF.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah. Okay. And then uh then she went on to do Babe Hickory with Mr. Renvier Singh, and then she was in war as a supporting actress. So those were her three so she completed her three film deal with um with YRF. But I feel bad, I really feel bad for her because like she is a good actress. Like I told you I saw that Mandala Murders with her, and I was like, oh, she's pretty good. But I feel like every time like she was supposed to do that movie with Fawad Khan, and then like some political thing happened, and then that movie like didn't even get released in India.

SPEAKER_03:

So yeah, it didn't get released in India and they got really bad reviews, though. It got such bad reviews. Yeah, it felt like people like it felt choppy, the story didn't make sense. I didn't watch it. Actually, I don't even know where it's released. I should look to see where it is. I can watch it. Another person who I also think is a good actress, but again has similar problems, Barniti. I think Baraniti is a good actress. I like her. I've every movie I watched of her, I've enjoyed her acting. However, I think outside of Ishagzade, I think that was like her one of her strongest movies. I don't think anything else would be like a real big hit. So her movie was um Lady versus Ricky Bale, Ish Ishagzade, and then Should They See Romance. She wasn't Should They See Romance, right? She was, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

You know, the difference the well, not difference, but the funny thing with her is obviously her cousin is Priyanka Tobra. And she, I'm sure she got preferential treatment in terms of like being picked out by YRF to do movies, you know, like it was easier for her to like get exposed to them because I think she worked with for them. Didn't she work for YRF like in the background somewhere? Maybe she could have done something. I think she did. And then that's how she kind of just became, you know, an actress or whatever. But yeah, you know, I I know you like her. I'm not a super fan of hers, but what I have watched of her, I don't mind. I think she's okay.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, I like I I liked her in Lady versus Ricky Vale. I thought she was hilarious in that, like her acting, like the characters she played, she played it really well. And then I watched Ishagzade. I told you, like, I loved how she did that in that movie. I didn't watch Should This Your Romance, but um you said you liked that movie, so I don't I didn't really watch it. I have no idea. It was okay. I didn't like it, it was just okay. It was okay.

SPEAKER_04:

So another I mean, some people consider him a failure. I I do like him, but Arjun Kapoor, he started off with Ishigzade too, um, along with Paraniti, and then he did a movie called Arungze, but I've never seen that one. I heard it was really good.

SPEAKER_03:

I heard it was really good, and he did good acting in that one too.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh, okay. And then his third movie was Gunde with um Renvier Singh, which we already know your thoughts on it, and we know that we like one song in it. But I I feel bad for him because he had potential, like he had two states right after Gunde, which again I really like two states, but I don't know what happened. He just kind of fell off.

SPEAKER_03:

I don't think people I don't think he had the hero look, but I think a lot of guys don't hear have a hero look. But I think it goes back to like who they want to promote, right? Like Rinveer came around the same time as him, but like got this Sanjay Le Bonzali deal and was able to like go past like move past that and like was able to get it. Um so I don't know. I don't I don't know what happened there. But I I like him. Like I've anything that I've seen, um his acting is good. Like I don't like him personally that much, but like I think he's a little whiny. I think he's a little whiny when I see interviews of him. He's always whining about something or another. Um every time he's been on Keijo, he's been whiny, but like I like Ishak Zade.

SPEAKER_04:

We were all like we were both excited about him um coming in as a villain for Singum 3 latest. Singum three Singh 3. Yeah, Singhem again, right? But I never watched it, so I don't know if he was good or not.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, me either. So I don't know. I feel like people are just a little hard on him, and I don't know why people are so hard on him when they like give like John V so many chances and she has so many movies up there. So like I don't know. I don't know what that is, but like yeah, no, she has that. So yeah, Arjun Kapoor is someone that didn't really do well, and I think it did work out for him, yeah. But one the recent ones that are kind of part of the YRF world is our boy Ahan Pande and our Sayara girl Anit Bada. Like those two are part of the YF, YRF New Age, New Face type of thing. Yes, you're right. And you love both of them. I I mean I like him. I like them too, but you love them. I mean, I love their movie. I do love them, but like I don't know how like we'll see how they do in the next movie, right? Yeah, this movie worked out for them. We'll see in the next movie how they do. But like as debut, I've as people who debuted uh with YRF, they did a good job. I think they did a good job. Uh one big, one big thing that we forgot to mention, Shraddha Kippoor. Shraddha Kapoor wasn't really a three-fil, I think, with YRF, but she has some type of falling out with them. And because of that falling out, she has never been into another YRF. Like, she's kind of like this is what people talk about, like how she's not in any Dharma movies or any YRF movies, because she had a falling out with them. I think it was something to do with like a movie that she signed, but she walked out of it and did um Ashiki 2. And I think because of that, like they have like kind of I don't know if blacklisted her, but like they don't work with her anymore.

SPEAKER_04:

Like Dharma and I liked her YRF movie though. Was it um that love cut the end? That was really good. I thought it was a fight. And it was with it was with that guy guy that from um Daj, right?

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Yeah, yeah.

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No, his name is Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

He was really good in that movie too. I don't remember him in that movie, but I remember her. He was the main dude. He was love, he was the main guy, he was the main guy, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

I don't remember, but he just looks very different. So because he was much younger and like clean shaven and like the and he needs the beard. Yeah, exactly. Um yeah, that's right. But you know what? Shredda's done good for herself, I think. She's made she's made it uh without YRF or Dharma, so good out.

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She has. She has Maddox films, really like loves her, boosted her up, and then ABCD dance, like her dancing skills. I would still say like one of the best. I think she's really good. So I think those movies really I I try to watch a lot of her movies, but she she's not good. Like I've tried to give her. I think she's good. I like her. I like Yusha though. I don't like her. I she's funny, she's great, like she does like um impersonations and accent. She's really good. So we're leaving YRF world right now, and we know about those three films and the movie like that. Now we're gonna go into Dharma. I think Dharma started something similar-ish to what YRF was doing, but instead of like um just doing movies with them, he's trying to do like a brand of them, like try to make them into a brand. And like Yeah, and Dharma's Karin Johar. Yes, Dharma is Karan Johar's um Karen Johar's um production house. So I think he's trying to like doing like a brand of these people, like changing them and like trying to put them in your face and everything. And one of the big ones that we know from him are his student of the year, first movie student of the year, his three kids from that movie, and that was Aliabhat, Varundawan, and Siddharth Malothra. And two of the three are Nepo children, and that's why he'd get called like the Nepo whatever lover or whatever. He's like, the Nepo pusher. Yeah, Nepo pusher. Yeah, and then Siddharth wasn't Nepo, but he like worked for him, I think, in the in the in the movies and the background.

SPEAKER_04:

I think he was in, yeah, he was like an assistant director, and like he just did a lot of background stuff for Dharma, and then I mean he's a good looking guy, so you know he pushed it.

SPEAKER_03:

I mean, there's a lot of like talk about like him being uh Karen's love interest. Side piece. Side piece. This is why like he got all of these like favoritisms and things like that. Because if you think about it, a lot of he hasn't done any like hit movies really outside of you know, like hasn't any hit movies, but he's done a lot of movies, but none of them have been like crazy hits or anything like that. Um but let's go let's jump back to Aliabhat. Aryabhat is like you know, Karanjoha loves her, like he's she's he's been pushing her from like all of his movies he's done. Student of the year with him, Hamptish Maki Dulania, Badinatki Dulania. Like she was in those, she was in Kapoorin's Sons. Um States, Kalank, Raki Arani. I mean the list is massive. Yeah. But she's good. She's good. She is good. I don't remember Student of the Year that much, how much I really liked her acting, but I watched her in Highway, which is not a I don't think it's a Dharma movie, but she's it's not, it's not a Dharma movie, but it's a fantastic movie. It was such a good movie. Like she, I think it was like such like to be like her second movie, kind of, I think that was her second movie. Um for her to be that good in that role, it was just really good. So she was like 17, I think.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh wow, she was very young.

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Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Varun Damon, on the other hand, I mean, if you I just I like Varun, you have your opinions, I have mine, I like Varun. I mean, he like Mithil said last week, he's playing to his strengths of being this goofy character, whatever it might be.

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I think it goes back goes back to how much I hated him in Dilwale, and I cannot tolerate him because of that. However, I will say every movie of his that I have watched have been Masala movies, and they have entertaining. And they're entertaining. It's like the Dulhanya series. Dulhanya series are are fun. They're fun, they're fun to watches. Like, I'm not gonna be like, oh, they're remarkable acting skills, but they're fun to watches and they have great songs in it. Um and I think that's all I've watched of him. Like, I've never watched like a serious movie. Like, I think he did a movie called Sui Daga with um Andres Kashra.

SPEAKER_04:

That was actually good, that was nice too. I liked him in that too. But I like him. I think I mean I don't I wouldn't consider him a super superstar like uh Renvier Singh superstar, but he's got a name and it's a decent name. He's not like squashed on the ground like Arjun Kapoor, you know? So I think he's okay. He turned out well. I think I undercover like Varundavan. I think I'm learning this about myself that I am a Varundavan fan.

SPEAKER_03:

I I think I probably am undercover Ruindovan fan too. Even though I hate on him so much, I do watch his movies a lot.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, you just watched one last week. I did. You know, if we're looking for just like dumb kind of background y watches, or possibly even just, oh, I just want to sit here and veg out and watch a funny movie. Yeah, yeah. Varundavan's a go-to guy for that.

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You're right, you're right. And those are like the 90s movies that I liked watching too. And then Siddharth, what what are your thoughts on Siddharth? I want to like him, and I've seen a lot of his movies. Like, I like his ek villain, and I thought he was really good on that.

SPEAKER_04:

I think he got he's gotten mixed reviews, but like if you look at the three-film deal or whatever you want to call it with Dharma, like Student of the Year, Hasid Fassi, um, Kapoorin Sons. I think I mean I don't know about Hasidh Fassi, but I know Student of the Year did m amazingly well. Kapoorin Sons, I thought was really, really good.

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A lot of people I didn't finish it, but I know a lot of people love that because for what I like. You have to finish it. It's so good, man. I found it so boring. It was so boring to watch it. I couldn't get myself to finish it.

SPEAKER_04:

It's very good. You know what? I think Dharmaya worked out for him because he's still doing like decent movies, not like amazing, but still doing some decent movies.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh yeah. Like if you look at his movies, they're none, like they're not hits or anything. Like they're like a lot of them are flops or just like not average. So the fact that he's still relevant or around and still doing movies, even though his movies haven't been huge hits, is kind of interesting to do that. Like he just did a movie with John V called uh Param Sundari. Um and I thought he was good in it.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, I don't have a a very I have a mixed opinion of him. I don't like him and I don't not like him. So he's just he's cute. So good for him.

SPEAKER_03:

Now you're onto your favorite. And going back to this whole branding lifestyle thing that he does, Karan Johar has taken to a different level after those three successes that he did. Umasutaria came out with them, Anania Pande came out with them, Student of the Year 2. They relaunched Tiger for Student of the Year 2 as well, trying to like give him, help him. That didn't help. Anania Pande and John V are Karan Joher's like next alia kind of thing, right? Like he's like putting them, like he's No no no no no no no.

SPEAKER_04:

They he he wants them to be oh Alia level, but but they are not in any way, shape, or form Alia level. But his love for them, right? That's where he it is. Like he like the fact that he put John V. Kapoor in Homebound, it just ruins the movie.

SPEAKER_03:

It is like it is adds nothing. Not ruins, but you know, it adds nothing. It gives nothing. It's zero zero value. But the reason he put John V into this movie was because he knew it was gonna be most likely be international uh success, gonna go to the cans, is gonna probably be nominated as India's Oscar nomination.

SPEAKER_04:

But he made, but here did you hear he made that comment though, too, also saying that like I don't think I'll ever make a movie like homebound anymore because it didn't do well here, like it didn't make money or whatever.

SPEAKER_03:

Like his concern was the money part of it versus and you know and a lot of people came back, a lot of people came back and clapped back at him on that. I was like, okay, dude, no one even though you're releasing this movie, you didn't promote it. The way you were promoting all your other like Masala movies, you didn't even promote this people movie. People didn't even know it came out onto theaters. A lot of people said, like, I didn't even know it came out in theaters. Had no idea. So you're it's such a good movie. Yeah, you promoted, you barely promoted it. So don't come back and be like, oh, you guys didn't like people didn't go watch it. No, you didn't promote the movie to people to know about this movie, the way you promote all your other movies and like kind of shove it down our throats. You didn't promote this, you know what I mean? So so that's but Homebad's a great movie. They're more like if you can make good movies like that, like it would be good. You just have to promote it.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah. But back to John V and Anonymous though, like I huh there, they're you know, they just I think they just need to step back is go settle down and open up a designing firm or do something else because acting is not your thing.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, I yeah, this acting might not be their thing. Go find something else to do, like find another.

SPEAKER_04:

You guys have money, you can have your father's or your own. Now you have money. You've done 20 movies, you have money. Use that money and and invest it well.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, anonymous is super pretty. Like, I actually think she's like would be great model and stuff like that. She's like normally pretty, like naturally without any work, too much work done to her. Naturally pretty. Like, um, but yeah, I don't there's not a movie of a nanya that I was like, oh my god, Anna just so good. Personally for me, I that's how I feel.

SPEAKER_04:

I mean, I told you control was actually pretty good, but I think it's because it was more of an AI movie than her. Like she was in it, but it was like the AI that kind of like made the movie. Yeah, that makes sense. Like the the the topic was good, the movie was good. It wasn't it wasn't necessarily because of her acting.

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That's the same thing I feel about Koy uh Koge Hamkaha with Siddharth and this other guy that's in it. And people were like, Oh, she did like, no, she didn't do anything, she didn't talk. She was she just happened to be at the right place at the right time. That's what it seemed like that to me. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, we're not big fans of those people, but whatever.

SPEAKER_04:

I mean, you still watch the movies. You said you liked the last John V movie you wanted.

SPEAKER_03:

I like that Sunday since Gary, I think she would just wore me down now. Like, I don't even know what to do. Like, I don't know. Do I really like this? Or I'm just like tired of arguing.

SPEAKER_04:

When we started this podcast, you've watched zero John V movies. Now it's like Param Sundari, Homebound, and now Sunday. Homebee.

SPEAKER_03:

Homebound, I watched because it was Ishan Kartra. She was in it. No, it wasn't it. She was in there. The other two movies are definitely her movies. So those are like, yeah, I had to watch it.

SPEAKER_04:

She was in it.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, yeah, those movies. Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

There's room for everybody, you guys. Like, you know, like it's survival of the fittest after a while.

SPEAKER_03:

So let's let's let everybody have a chance. And good people, like again, pushing people down that are throat that are not that good. Like, I know you want to brand them, I know you want to make them, I know you want them to be successful. That's great. As an uncle, that's great for you. Like, you want to do that for your nieces and nephews, that's great. But like sometimes find other good talent and let them be something too.

SPEAKER_04:

So, in the end, okay, three-film deal or not, whether it's real or not, we don't really know. But a lot of these actors, it seems like the ones that are kind of like non-Nepo-ey that didn't have any backing, kind of had to may have signed a c like they may have signed a contract before actually being part of the Bollywood industry. And the Nepo ones, because Karin Johar is their pseudo-uncle, like let's say he just takes them and says, Okay, Acha beta, let's go have do a movie, you know, like let's go do a play date, let's go have a movie, you know, let's go act in a movie and shove you guys down everybody's throats.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, I guess so. I guess so. But yeah, we don't know. We'll see how these big production houses do it. But like other people are launching um actors too, and we like them, so we'll see how it goes.

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Give it to me, all right. Fans and industry folk alike can't get enough of this movie. Can't stop discussing about it, but many fake rumors are floating around. As per a source, rumors of a Bollywood current numero of Uno being insecure because of the movie's success are totally untrue. Rival fan accounts posted about him timing a vital ceremony just after the movie released to take some attention away from it. Again, untrue. The superstar is very secure about his current position. Can you guess? I I know the movie. The movie must be the runner. So this must be about Renvier. This this might be Renvier and Renvier. They're always pinning them together. Don't you think? Something like that. It's just it sounds like it's Renvier. Because who else could it possibly be, honestly? But like we're saying, I mean, yeah, Renvier's movie got released, but everybody's talking about Akshakana. So why are people thinking that Renvier is like this number one or something?

SPEAKER_03:

Like, chill out, people. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, yeah, people are talking about Akshekana being a villain, but people are still talking about Renvere also being like really good too. Oh really? I haven't seen anything about Renvier yet.

SPEAKER_04:

I've only seen Akshekana all of them.

SPEAKER_03:

I know I have. I have. He's been everyone is. I mean, he did kind of it's kind of like when Bobby did his like villain section for animal. Everyone's like, oh my god, Bobby, Bobby, Bobby. But but no, but they still talked about it about that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_04:

They still talked about Renvier. But I have I haven't personally seen anything about Renvier. Oh.

SPEAKER_03:

No, I have. I have I have seen stuff, yeah, on his stuff.

SPEAKER_04:

Okay, good. Okay, Money, it is vow time. What are the polls giving us today?

SPEAKER_03:

Well, this week on the polls, we had uh a very close race between uh one song and the winner was Tu Meri Me Teri Me Tera Tu Meri, whatever the title of the song was the title.

SPEAKER_04:

Okay, well, I guess it was good songs at least. Okay, well, good, good, good. Um well my song, it's Akshay Kana's entrance song. I think you're supposed to say it F A9LA, but it looks like Fab Lab to me, but even though it's not a book, um, it's by Flipper Flipperacchi, and it is so good. Like his entrance, I remember hearing a little thing about this too. Like, I think it was a director or another actor on set. Um, an Akshay Kana heard the song and he's like, he was supposed to just walk in and he's like, Can I dance? And and they're like, Yeah, sure, whatever you feel. And he danced and he looked amazing. I loved it. I love his entrance.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, yeah. That that was really that was really cool. Yeah, that song. I think um, I don't know if it's his entrance, but he like just that's the song for that section. And it's the entrance for that section. Yeah, yeah. It's so cool because like he just copied the dancers and just did it. It was not choreographed anything. He just copied, walked in, did a little moves that he does everywhere, and then just starts laughing and goes sits down. It looks it looks cool. Yeah, it was all over my feet.

SPEAKER_04:

It's very authentic because like that's what we would do if we go to a wedding, we see somebody doing a move and we copy their move, right? Like, so it was really, it was really good. Yeah. Um the other thing I wanted to mention is this is not a pure Bollywood movie. They and they did not filterate it or anything, they took it straight as it was. It's a Bahrainian um Bahrainian rapper named Flipperacchi, and they just took that song because they loved it so much and inserted it in. I love that they didn't like mess with it. Good job, Bollywood. You did something good.

SPEAKER_03:

What's your vow? Okay, my vow this week is this song called Um It's H T L Y. And it's by doing all like numerics and just acronyms nowadays. Okay. Letters, yeah. Um, it's by this uh artist called Anik Khan. He's Bangladeshi. He was um he was raised in New York and in Leesburg, Virginia. Oh. So um Hometown Boy. Yeah, it's and he does that, yep, exactly. And he does a collab with Ali Seti. And I think the H-T-L-Y is like hate that I love you. Uh-huh. It's actually a pretty cool song. His old and I've been listening to his entire album, but this one's bit like stuck out for me. Oh with Ali Seti. It's not that same same guy that did the Telugu song, too, right? Remember there was like one. No, no, that one. Yeah, that one, that guy named Bill Al Saeed. No, that's not him. This is a different guy.

SPEAKER_04:

Okay, good. Well, okay. I really like that one, so I'm looking forward to hearing this one too.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, let's take a listen on this.

SPEAKER_04:

Okay, well, fun episode, money.

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Oh yay, thank you guys. Like, share, follow. Bye. Bye.

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I hate that I love you. Runaway girl meets runaway boy, you know we do.

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Seven. I know, and you slept at five. Uh two. You may as well have came home clubbing, woke up for wish. At least you can blame yourself, like, oh, I did this to myself.

SPEAKER_03:

So weird that I can't find his movie. He has his own little second filmography, right? Filmography. Filmography. And then shepherd over here. I know, exactly.

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My name is a weird thing. Where is this movie? Um, on a serial.

SPEAKER_03:

This is this has gotta be real, right? I mean it's gonna be a satire type of cereal too. So he's taking a lot of things from what's happening already in the industry and he's putting it into his thing, which is why I don't know, we wanted to just start talking. Telling you about every film the old